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MaBi
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Joined: Jan 01, 2006
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Samurai removed Reply with quote

Samurai has been removed from this site on request by the rights owner, who has withdrawn the permission granted in the past.
Currently existing games will be allowed to run to completion but it will not be possible to create new Samurai games.


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stephant



Joined: Dec 14, 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: well that sucks Reply with quote

well that sucks

I actually own the board game and it was nice that I could hone my skills online.

Thanks,

ST
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ddmits



Joined: Feb 03, 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:01 pm    Post subject: Shame!! Reply with quote

That's a shame.... I also own the game. I actually purchased it recently after playing two games online. I wouldn't have bought it otherwise. That's not good marketing.
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Vetinari



Joined: Jan 03, 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:08 pm    Post subject: MaBi isn't the only one Reply with quote

The good doctor recently withdrew permission to host another game at Yucata.de. Looks like MaBi isn't the only site affected.
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hemp



Joined: May 07, 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe it!! What a sad notice... I have a copy of the game but online is the only place where I can find really competitive players to play with.

This is TERRIBLE.
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astroglide



Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:'( Hopefully it can return one day. In any case thank you for implementing it, and hosting it for as long as you legally could.
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meerkat



Joined: Feb 09, 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Samurai removed Reply with quote

MaBi wrote:
Samurai has been removed from this site on request by the rights owner, who has withdrawn the permission granted in the past.
Currently existing games will be allowed to run to completion but it will not be possible to create new Samurai games.


MaBi


:? MaBi... did they offer a price quote for licence? I would pony up some cash to keep it here. It is my second favorite game. Right after In the Shadow of the Emperor.

Though I will understand if you do not want to deal with that level of hassle.
That would change your site characteristics quite a bit.
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meerkat



Joined: Feb 09, 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

astroglide wrote:
:'( Hopefully it can return one day. In any case thank you for implementing it, and hosting it for as long as you legally could.


I strongly second this comment.
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ToughasNails



Joined: May 28, 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meerkat wrote:
astroglide wrote:
:'( Hopefully it can return one day. In any case thank you for implementing it, and hosting it for as long as you legally could.


I strongly second this comment.

Right on. It was awesome while it lasted. Would love to see it return someday.
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MaBi
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Samurai removed Reply with quote

meerkat wrote:
MaBi... did they offer a price quote for licence?

Yes, they did, but that's not going to happen: this is just a free site I did in my spare time as an enthusiast gamer, it is not and will never be a commercial site. Moreover, paying the license for a game would be unfair to all those who offer their permission for free, so that's totally out of the question.
Samurai will never be back on MaBiWeb, but no hard feelings toward Knizia, I thanked him for having allowed the game so far and if he now thinks this change is best for his business... well, I disagree but obviously it's entirely up to him.
More than 18000 Samurai games have been played in the years it was available, so I don't think the time I spent on the game was wasted.


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RickT



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate that you made it available as long as you could.
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bostonfred



Joined: Feb 17, 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:52 pm    Post subject: I don't post much Reply with quote

I've played a lot of Samurai on this site and it makes me sad knowing that it's coming to an end. Thank you for hosting it for as long as you did. It was a lot of fun while it lasted.

My wife calls it the colors game because she sees me playing it on my laptop from a distance and just sees a bunch of colors on the screen. I had finally gotten her to look at it and was going to try to get her to play in the hopes that we'd get it for the house, but I'm not sure I want to buy it and find out she'll never play.

I haven't played much of the other games here - is there a good game you guys would recommend as a replacement?
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meerkat



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Samurai removed Reply with quote

MaBi wrote:
Moreover, paying the license for a game would be unfair to all those who offer their permission for free, so that's totally out of the question.


You are correct. I didn't consider that. With that thought in place I think you are fair and wise to not think about paying the fee.

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More than 18000 Samurai games have been played in the years it was available, so I don't think the time I spent on the game was wasted.


No it was not wasted. I have even made a good friend entirely though our conversations and enjoyment of over 60 2-player games of Samurai.

I kept a good friend entertained while stationed in Afghanistan through dozens of games of this.

And I have introduced a couple of people Euros through it.

Thank you so much MaBi for the work you did. It was a great blessing to me this past year.

I came for In the Shadow of the Emperor but found Samurai to be a real gem.
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pikeman



Joined: May 25, 2007
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Location: Essex, UK.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a shame but as you (MaBi) yourself pointed out on Yucata there was a strong possibility that this could happen.
I'm not sure where Knizia is going with this. Is withdrawing the game more or less likely to encourage people to buy it? Is that the motivation even? As has already been mentioned by some of the respondents they already own the game specifically as a result of playing the on line version, as was the case with Schotten Totten on Yucata. In any case it is Mr Knizia's invention and therefore his to do with as he feels.
I'm grateful to you for the implementation as I am also grateful to you for hosting this site. This was my introduction to online, and probably one of my favourite games, although sometimes with a slightly unsatisfactory conclusion. It will be missed. I'll just have to get better at Ur.
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tatar



Joined: Feb 24, 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samurai seems to be a very nice, quick tactical game. It's a pity I could not start my third game but I'm really gratetfull to MaBi for 2 chances to try Samurai game on-line.

Cheers.
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