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Little ice age: choosing insufficient resource (solved)

 
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Jabla



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:36 pm    Post subject: Little ice age: choosing insufficient resource (solved) Reply with quote

I only had 2 food and still could choose 3 food rather than losing 5 books. I would have lost the point anyway to famine, this way losing only 4 books rather than 5

Is this a bug, at least it seems inconsistent as normally you cannot deliberately choose insufficient resource unless there was no other valid option.
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Jabla



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1115347/choosing-resource-pay-when-losing-event

According to this, its a bug. I should have lost 5 books automatically, then one more and vp during famine.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Game where this occurred is 72150

As a result I have two extra books there I am not entitled to. (Actually 1 at time of writing this, 2 after famine)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jabla wrote:
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1115347/choosing-resource-pay-when-losing-event

According to this, its a bug. I should have lost 5 books automatically, then one more and vp during famine.

Hmm... I realize this comes directly from the designer, but the faq he mentions is: You may not voluntarily spend more resources than you have and lose VP, this can only happen when you are forced to lose something.
I always interpreted it as "you can't spend resources you don't have", as in deploying a worker even without enough stone by paying books and 1 VP, or buying a card without gold.
This can only happen when you are forced to lose something, but in this case you are forced to lose something, you are not voluntarily spending it.
Also, what if you have neither enough food nor enough books? Can you choose?
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Jabla



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That’s exactly what I was wondering. Technically this can be also intepreted from rules that little ice age is NOT voluntary spending but forced use, which would result in clearer situation (something to add to faq++)

I suppose player choice in situation where both resources run out would be most logical though.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will ask Rustan if he can give us the definitive answer, and in case I will fix the bug.
Thanks for noticing and reporting this.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that Rustan replied to your question on BGG, confirmed as a bug then.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been fixed.
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