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[quote="LordChambers"][quote="Wario83"]Hey LordChambers, did you ever get around to compiling all the data from games to see if there was an appreciable difference in winrate for different Nations and seat order?[/quote] No, I didn't. But since you reminded me, I just checked the responses, and we just got to 101 Dynasty results in January 2019. I'm looking at the results now and will spit out a table or two.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LordChambers</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:24 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Wario83 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Hey LordChambers, did you ever get around to compiling all the data from games to see if there was an appreciable difference in winrate for different Nations and seat order?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No, I didn't. But since you reminded me, I just checked the responses, and we just got to 101 Dynasty results in January 2019. I'm looking at the results now and will spit out a table or two.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Wario83</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:43 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hey LordChambers, did you ever get around to compiling all the data from games to see if there was an appreciable difference in winrate for different Nations and seat order?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LordChambers</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:57 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Fastest/Slowest Players and average times</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I analyzed my <span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="http://www.mabiweb.com/modules.php?name=Game_Manager&op=show_user_history&gm_user=LordChambers&gm_type=0" target="_blank" class="postlink">game history</a></span> to find out what the average game lengths are. Here's a table. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Code:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="code">Player Count #completed(n) Quickest (Days) Longest (Days) AVG Length (Days) <br /> 2er 11 0.2 20 5.5 <br /> 3er 4 9 22 14.8 <br /> 4er 34 18 124 49.2 <br /> 5er 8 33 73 47.8 <br /> 6er 2 46 68 57.0</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Across all game sizes, each additional player adds an average 9.7 days to the game length. I've had some terrible experiences with 4ers, which skew this trend line. The sample sizes are low as well. These numbers reflect only completed games, and not games where a player disappeared. <br /> <br />I wanted to shout out the players with whom I've had my top 25% fastest 4ers: <br /><ul><li>Albikows <br /><li>jonlavinder <br /><li>wildfighter <br /><li>DanSan1 <br /><li>Nutlai <br /><li>whip <br /><li>Mockingjay <br /><li>Bamboleo44 <br /><li>judgelau <br /><li>gibedmond <br /><li>EdeKowalksi <br /><li>nations <br /><li>douglaslei <br /><li>Talaborn <br /><li>Fiann <br /><li>Hammurabi <br /><li>sillue <br /><li>Wario83 <br /><li>H_B <br /><li>Eki <br /></ul> <br /> <br />Here are the players in my 10% longest 4ers: <br /><ul><li>Gamerhood <br /><li>Altor <br /><li>Mockingjay <br /><li>Johnsonwater <br /><li>gibedmond <br /><li>pew <br /><li>nooby <br /></ul> <br />There are two accounts on both lists, which shows how this analysis really doesn't work to find slow players, since its often that one player holds up a game while everyone else suffers. As well, a "slow" player in a game may just have a poor timezone or schedule to play soon after the last player. Turn order matters too. Consider players in North America and Hong Kong (16 hour difference) who both check their tables before going to bed (2200 local time) and again in the morning (800 local time). If the North American player followings the Hong Kong player in turn order, he will likely let 8 hours lapse on his turn. If instead he staffs up a military unit and causes the Hong Kong player to follow him, then the lapse occurs during the Hong Kong player's turn. If the other players at the table are in Asia this may reduce the total table wait. If they are in North America it will probably increase the total wait. <br /> <br />Obviously the solution is to check frequently throughout the day so the problem of sleep is the longest delay a table faces.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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